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Claim

At Tesla's October 2024 Cybercab unveiling, Elon Musk said the vehicle would cost under $30,000.

Type HISTORICAL · truth-evaluable: yes · status at snapshot: ACTIVE · created seq 4937

a comma-separated series may list several propositions

Referenced 203 times: checked 3, looked up by assistants 0, viewed 127, shared 73. A count of attention, not evidence.

Revises The Tesla Cybercab is projected to cost $30,000. · reason: The sources support a dated statement by Musk and a ceiling below $30,000, not an exact current projection of $30,000.

Topics

Prices and inflation · 56fe4c61 Technology · 56fe4c61

Assessment

Supported

Score: 0.9851 under ledger-default@0.3.0 at snapshot 27745

0 of 4 review checks done · 0 counted

4 independent evidence lineages · review checks 0 of 4 · stability HIGH

Main unresolved issue: 6 counted evidence items have no independence review; repeats of one origin may be counted as several coverage:9ee68f0a-bc4c-876d-9cba-21b34bf22cce

Not yet independently audited.Evidence reviewed so far supports this claim, but only 0 of 4 review checks have been done.A quoted passage from theguardian.com was not found on the page when Galedra fetched it.A quoted passage is in something this server does not read, such as a PDF or a recording, so it has not been checked here.

Why?

Strongest counted support: Reuters independently reports that at the October 2024 unveiling Musk said the Cybercab would be produced from 2026 and priced under $30,000. weight 1.800000 evidence

Suppressed as dependent: Diamandis gives a projected Cybercab price of $30,000.

Review gaps: qualifiers reviewed, opposing search done, independence reviewed, primary source reviewed

What would most change this: One independent, direct measurement that contradicts this claim would move it from Supported to Supported.

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0.9851 under ledger-default@0.3.0 at snapshot 27745 · state Supported · Review checks: 0 of 4 · stability HIGH · 8 sources, 4 independent lineages

Model ledger-default@0.3.0 (the default model, not the answer) · snapshot 27745 · trace sha256:a610c8a8caa1b84ab62d43c7db8457f1ce2ce24c3a7a5c8a38d37f6ab3bbecf5

Last changed at entry seq 13692; nothing logged since has borne on this claim.

How the number was reached

Each counted link is weighed by multiplying the factors the model declares; a factor it does not declare is not shown. Every factor name below links to what that number means.

LinkWorkingWeightCounted as
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0cc1f3df qualify relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.102000 0.000000 (non directional)
4d7b0cbc support relevance WEAK 0.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 2 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 2 0.700000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.014000 0.000000 (dependent strongest only, kept 3aba4dd2)
39cbef04 support relevance DIRECT 2.0 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 0 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 0 1.000000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 1.800000 1.800000
2d2ed68b support relevance MODERATE 0.6 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 0 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 0 1.000000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.540000 0.540000
a9335bc6 qualify relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.102000 0.000000 (non directional)
79e4b832 support relevance DIRECT 2.0 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 0 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 0 1.000000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 1.800000 1.800000
6bff64f9 qualify relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.918000 0.000000 (non directional)

prior 0.50 → log-odds 0.000000 + 4.191000 (the counted weights) = 4.191000 → probability 0.9851

Under neighbouring settings of the same model: 0.9495 to 0.9957, a spread of 0.0462.

Half-even rounding, six places for weights and four for the probability. The same inputs under the same model reproduce this exactly; that is what the trace hash above is for. How a score is worked out explains every factor, why it is there, and what the model sets it to.

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Evidence for

Evidence against

None.

Qualifications

Suppressed as dependent

EvidenceGroupKept instead
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Inferences

Concluded from

None.

Used as a premise in

None.

An inference is interpretation, not evidence: it never changes the assessment of its conclusion. Each premise is a claim with its own evidence.

Threads

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Claim edges

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Review checklist

Review checks: 0 of 4

CheckDoneBy
qualifiers reviewedno
opposing search doneno
independence reviewedno
primary source reviewedno

Summary

Supported. The main support is: A speaker says the Cybercab price is projected at $30,000. 222d5fd6

1 further item repeats the same origin and is not independent evidence. e2868e2f

Qualifier: The Guardian likewise reported the announced Cybercab price as under $30,000. aaff711f

Qualifier: At the 2024 Cybercab unveiling, Musk projected that the vehicle would cost under $30,000. 46cfb088

Qualifier: Musk said the Cybercab would cost below $30,000, stating a ceiling rather than a projection. b8302f05

Review checks: 0 of 4. coverage:9ee68f0a-bc4c-876d-9cba-21b34bf22cce

Generated by stub-v0.1; every sentence cites graph ids.

Contribution history

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