Claim
Sam Altman was fired out of fear arising from the Strawberry project and subsequently returned to OpenAI.
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Assessment
Supported
Main unresolved issue: 8 counted evidence items have no independence review; repeats of one origin may be counted as several coverage:e9e1ee8c-3be2-8352-a233-797743a7ef2a
Not yet independently audited.Evidence points both ways.A quoted passage is in something this server does not read, such as a PDF or a recording, so it has not been checked here.
Why?
Strongest counted support: Altman was ousted on November 17, 2023, and reinstated on November 22 after employee and investor pressure. weight 1.800000 evidence
Strongest counted contradiction: OpenAI's independent review found the removal did not arise out of concerns regarding product safety or security. weight 0.918000 evidence
Suppressed as dependent: Speaker says Altman was fired out of fear from Strawberry and then came back.; The excerpt directly says Sam Altman was fired out of fear from Strawberry and then came back.
Review gaps: independence reviewed
What would most change this: One independent, direct measurement that contradicts this claim would move it from Supported to Unresolved.
0.8677 under ledger-default@0.3.0 at snapshot 27745 · state Supported · Review checks: 3 of 4 · stability MEDIUM · 8 sources, 4 independent lineages
How the number was reached
| Link | Working | Weight | Counted as |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5e0afc4b support | relevance WEAK 0.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 2 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 2 0.700000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance SELF 0.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 0.000000 | 0.000000 |
| 03865d03 contradict | relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 0.918000 | 0.918000 |
| d50dee1a support | relevance MODERATE 0.6 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 0.459000 | 0.459000 |
| 01bf77bf support | relevance DIRECT 2.0 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 0 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 0 1.000000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 1.800000 | 1.800000 |
| ac079fc5 support | relevance WEAK 0.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance SELF 0.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 0.000000 | 0.000000 (dependent strongest only, kept 5e0afc4b) |
| 9d1ac9b5 qualify | relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 0 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 0 1.000000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 1.080000 | 0.000000 (non directional) |
| 941a58f1 support | relevance DIRECT 2.0 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance SELF 0.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 0.000000 | 0.000000 (dependent strongest only, kept 5e0afc4b) |
| 1c388250 support | relevance MODERATE 0.6 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 0 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 0 1.000000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 | 0.540000 | 0.540000 |
prior 0.50 → log-odds 0.000000 + 1.881000 (the counted weights) = 1.881000 → probability 0.8677
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- “Sam Altman was fired out of fear arising from the Strawberry project and subsequently returned to OpenAI.” · 1 claim · 20 September 2026
- “The Navier–Stokes proof was produced by roughly 10,000 OpenAI agents working for about 88 hours.” · 32 claims · 20 September 2026
Evidence for
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From OpenAI Agents Hijack a German Website, Jensen Declares AGI Arrived, and OpenAI Solves Navier-Stokes Read 2026-09-20 Relevance WEAK Steps 2 Counted
A causal account of the 2023 board dispute offered in passing.
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From OpenAI Agents Hijack a German Website, Jensen Declares AGI Arrived, and OpenAI Solves Navier-Stokes Read 2026-09-20 Relevance WEAK Steps 1 Counted
Passage states the sequence and the motive, but as an offhand aside in a timeline recap. The firing and return are matters of record; the causal attribution to fear of Strawberry is the contested part and rests on nothing cited here.
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From Removal of Sam Altman from OpenAI Read 2026-09-22 Relevance DIRECT Steps 0 Counted
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From OpenAI Board Was Warned Of AGI Breakthrough Days Before Altman's Firing Read 2026-09-22 Relevance MODERATE Steps 1 Counted
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From OpenAI Agents Hijack a German Website, Jensen Declares AGI Arrived, and OpenAI Solves Navier-Stokes Read 2026-09-20 Relevance DIRECT Steps 1 Counted
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From EXCLUSIVE: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster, sources say Read 2026-09-28 Relevance MODERATE Steps 0 Counted
Supports the temporal association between Q*/the warning and Altman’s firing, plus his subsequent return.
Evidence against
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From Review completed & Altman, Brockman to continue to lead OpenAI Read 2026-09-20 Relevance STRONG Steps 1 Counted
The independent WilmerHale review attributed Altman's removal to a breakdown in the relationship and loss of trust, explicitly ruling out safety and pace-of-development concerns. The Q*/Strawberry-caused-the-firing account is persistent rumour rather than documented fact. The "subsequently returned" half of the claim is correct.
Qualifications
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From EXCLUSIVE: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster, sources say Read 2026-09-28 Relevance STRONG Steps 0 Counted
Qualifies the stronger causal wording: the reporting says one factor among several and does not specifically establish that Strawberry itself caused the firing.
Suppressed as dependent
| Evidence | Group | Kept instead |
|---|---|---|
| 1e052951 | 5e0afc4b | |
| a319c0fc | 5e0afc4b |
Inferences
Concluded from
None.
Used as a premise in
None.
Threads
None. Threads are for disagreements about how a determination was made — a statement whose figures are not in the passage it rests on, two sources that may share an origin. Something about the world belongs in the evidence above.
Claim edges
| From | Relationship | To |
|---|---|---|
| fad9f870 | NARROWS | 43a7ef2a |
Review checklist
Review checks: 3 of 4
| Check | Done | By |
|---|---|---|
| qualifiers reviewed | yes | 81fb04b4 |
| opposing search done | yes | 4472040c |
| independence reviewed | no | |
| primary source reviewed | yes | 03865d03 |
Summary
Supported. The main support is: Days before Altman's dismissal, researchers warned the board of a possible breakthrough in Q* that could threaten humanity, per Reuters. 8c8a29c2
Against that, contradiction: OpenAI's independent review found the removal did not arise out of concerns regarding product safety or security. 58ae6a0d
2 further items repeat the same origin and are not independent evidence. 1e052951a319c0fc
Qualifier: Reuters reports the letter as one factor among a longer list of grievances, not as the sole cause, and notes it could not review the letter. 32009f35
A narrower version of this claim is leans contradicted. fad9f870
A search for evidence in the opposing direction found something; see the counted evidence. 4472040c
Contribution history
| seq | event | detail |
|---|---|---|
| 2337 | APPENDED | |
| 2338 | ACCEPT | AUTOMATIC_AFTER_VALIDATION |
| 2481 | LINK_EVIDENCE | by 03192ed8 (accepted) |
| 3834 | TASK_RESULT | by 03192ed8 (accepted) |
| 4259 | LINK_EVIDENCE | by 03192ed8 (accepted) |
| 7204 | TASK_RESULT | by 8b5e81bf (accepted) |
| 7914 | TASK_RESULT | by 1efd24fe (accepted) |
| 9717 | TASK_RESULT | by 1efd24fe (accepted) |
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