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Revised

Superseded at seq 4937 by bhoult: At Tesla's October 2024 Cybercab unveiling, Elon Musk said the vehicle would cost under $30,000. · reason: The sources support a dated statement by Musk and a ceiling below $30,000, not an exact current projection of $30,000.. This entry stays in the log; the current claim is the revision.

The Tesla Cybercab is projected to cost $30,000.

Type QUANTITATIVE · truth-evaluable: yes · status at snapshot: SUPERSEDED · created seq 3427

Referenced 169 times: checked 3, looked up by assistants 1, viewed 111, shared 54. A count of attention, not evidence.

Topics

Prices and inflation · 03192ed8 Technology · 03192ed8

Assessment

Insufficient evidence

0 of 4 review checks done · 0 counted

0 independent evidence lineages · review checks 0 of 4 · stability n/a

Main unresolved issue: 3 counted evidence items have no independence review; repeats of one origin may be counted as several coverage:2feef46b-be29-89a0-a234-61d8ad36e636

Not yet independently audited.A quoted passage from theguardian.com was not found on the page when Galedra fetched it.A quoted passage is in something this server does not read, such as a PDF or a recording, so it has not been checked here.

Why?

Suppressed as dependent: A speaker says the Cybercab price is projected at $30,000.

Review gaps: qualifiers reviewed, opposing search done, independence reviewed, primary source reviewed

What would most change this: One independent, direct measurement that supports this claim would move it from Insufficient evidence to Supported.

Hide calculation

No probability. No counted evidence bears on this claim at this snapshot.

Model ledger-default@0.3.0 (the default model, not the answer) · snapshot 27745 · trace sha256:278c89262d2beb37fd3159dfd5a8d680f1d3a09d0c1a17a0a017f3968b5c6ab8

Last changed at entry seq 4938; nothing logged since has borne on this claim.

How the number was reached

Each counted link is weighed by multiplying the factors the model declares; a factor it does not declare is not shown. Every factor name below links to what that number means.

LinkWorkingWeightCounted as
e6b1cc22 qualify relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation DIRECT_TEXT 0.9 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.918000 0.000000 (non directional)
a849d572 qualify relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.102000 0.000000 (non directional)
2d8deb7e support relevance WEAK 0.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 2 steps, 1 − 0.15 × 2 0.700000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance SELF 0.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.000000 0.000000
9163da16 support relevance MODERATE 0.6 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance SELF 0.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.000000 0.000000 (dependent strongest only, kept 2d8deb7e)
49ea3758 qualify relevance STRONG 1.2 × observation HEARSAY 0.1 × interpretation 1 step, 1 − 0.15 × 1 0.850000 × authenticity UNVERIFIED 1.0 × extraction UNVERIFIED 1.0 × provenance INDEPENDENT 1.0 × edition NAMED_OR_UNRELATED 1 0.102000 0.000000 (non directional)

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Evidence for

Evidence against

None.

Qualifications

Suppressed as dependent

EvidenceGroupKept instead
222d5fd62d8deb7e

Inferences

Concluded from

None.

Used as a premise in

None.

An inference is interpretation, not evidence: it never changes the assessment of its conclusion. Each premise is a claim with its own evidence.

Threads

None. Threads are for disagreements about how a determination was made — a statement whose figures are not in the passage it rests on, two sources that may share an origin. Something about the world belongs in the evidence above.

Claim edges

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Review checklist

Review checks: 0 of 4

1 check by this claim's own author. No independent review yet. 1 EVIDENCE VERIFICATION. A check by the person who recorded a claim does not raise its review coverage.

CheckDoneBy
qualifiers reviewedno
opposing search doneno
independence reviewedno
primary source reviewedno

Summary

Insufficient evidence. No counted evidence bears on this claim yet. coverage:2feef46b-be29-89a0-a234-61d8ad36e636

1 further item repeats the same origin and is not independent evidence. 222d5fd6

Qualifier: Musk said the Cybercab would cost below $30,000, stating a ceiling rather than a projection. b8302f05

Qualifier: The Guardian likewise reported the announced Cybercab price as under $30,000. aaff711f

Qualifier: At the 2024 Cybercab unveiling, Musk projected that the vehicle would cost under $30,000. 46cfb088

Review checks: 0 of 4. coverage:2feef46b-be29-89a0-a234-61d8ad36e636

Generated by stub-v0.1; every sentence cites graph ids.

Contribution history

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3428ACCEPTAUTOMATIC_AFTER_VALIDATION
3557LINK_EVIDENCEby 03192ed8 (accepted)
3870TASK_RESULTby 03192ed8 (accepted)
4569LINK_EVIDENCEby e82bf250 (accepted)
4925LINK_EVIDENCEby 56fe4c61 (accepted)
4927LINK_EVIDENCEby 56fe4c61 (accepted)

Score trace

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